Is ASEA a Scam? - "Salt Water" Packaged in a Nice Bottle?

Chances are you want to know if the Redox supplement work or if ASEA is a good opportunity to join.

But things that worries you are probably the claims that it is just salt water packaged in a nice bottle, and that ASEA is a scam.

In this review, I am going to expose the truth and everything you need to know about the company.

I know your time is precious, so just in case you want to know if ASEA is a scam, you can skip to this section, or use this...

But otherwise, I will first be talking about the effectiveness of the product, and then I'll explain if it is worth joining the company as an associate.

Now, to give you a well-balanced review, I've purchased a box of ASEA which consist of 4 bottles, and I am going to share with you my experience below.

Review Summary (With Short Video Review)

Owners: Verdis Norton & James Pack

Price to Join Opportunity: $20/mth + $237.50/mth

ASEA Retail Price: $40 per bottle

Asea Scam or Not - Truth Revealed

Business Opportunity Rating:

ASEA Redox Supplement Rating:

Short Video Review

Do ASEA Work?

Interestingly, it was an ASEA associate, Jenese Garland, who wrote a comment on this page requesting that I try the product, and so I did.

I ordered 4 bottles of ASEA Redox Supplement on 2 November 2017 (Thursday), and to my surprise, I got the package within 2 days (Saturday). The speed of delivery is just incredible.

As an eager consumer, I took a couple of photos (below), then I was ready to try this "Salt Water."

ASEA Redox Package Arrived
ASEA Redox Supplement - Shipment Order
ASEA Redox Supplement 1 - Bare Naked Scam Personal Experience

But unfortunately, I was only able to start the drinking it on 7 November (Tuesday) as I was going away on a stay-cation over the weekends.

The ASEA Redox Recommended Consumption

I wanted to be an obedient consumer, so I adhere to the recommended consumption which is 120 ml a day. 60 ml in the morning, and 60 ml before I got to bed.

They even provided me with a small 60 ml cup which is convenient. Thank you ASEA for that.

Now, week 1 of consumption...

Week 1 of the ASEA experience (14 November)

Here's the picture (on the right) showing my last drip of ASEA (I didn't cheat! I consumed the whole bottle).

ASEA is really precise with their prescription. One bottle can last you exactly 7 days.

The Taste? Well, it didn't taste like salt water for me, but it did taste like water from the swimming pool.

ASEA Redox Consuming the Last Drip

My experience? The feeling of drinking premium water is great! It just like the feeling of wearing a Rolex as opposed to wearing a cheap $100 watch. It elevates your status subconsciously, but that's just the feeling.

Does it work? Unfortunately, I didn't feel much of a difference in terms of health. But, I guess it is still too early to tell.

Let me skip ahead to the last drip of the last bottle...

Week 4 of the ASEA Experience (13 December)

After consuming the final drip of ASEA, unfortunately, I still didn't feel much difference. Maybe a little energetic than before, but nothing major as far as I can tell.

Now, before you make a judgment, I have 2 things to say:

  1. ASEA is not a one-size-fits-all product; It won't work for everybody, you have to try it to know;
  2. My health wasn't in bad shape, and that's probably why I didn't feel much difference.

The reason I was willing to try ASEA Redox was that I've done extensive research on the product. Many people have a positive experience with the product, even for people who are not an associate of the company. And, that's a good sign that this company is not a pyramid scheme.

So, if you are on the fence, I would say that you should give ASEA Redox a try and see if it works for you.

Were you a customer of ASEA? Please share your experience in the comments section below. Your experience can help others with their decision.

Now, if the products did benefit you, let's talk about the business opportunity.

Should You Join ASEA as an Associate?

Wouldn't it make sense to join as an associate only if you have a positive experience with the ASEA Redox supplement or any ASEA's products?

It's only logical, right?

But many people ignored this, and they join just because ASEA gives them an opportunity to earn money.

I'll be honest with you. If "money" is the only reason, then there are many opportunities out there that are much easier to earn money than ASEA.

MLM - Salesmanship - Tough to succeed

The bottom line is, you need to have the passion and the drive to succeed, and this can only be found if you have had an amazing experience with ASEA's products.

However, merely having the passion and the drive is not enough... There are many other factors (including a success formula) that are required to be successful with the company.

The truth is, many associates are still stuck with traditional marketing methods, and I've explained in this article why the traditional methods don't work anymore.

And that is why more than 95% of the people fail with the ASEA business opportunity.

Now, let me explain further the top 3 reasons why ASEA associates fail, and then I will share with you a success formula that will increase your chance of success.

And in the end, if you don't think ASEA is the right opportunity, I will share with you the best alternative that has allowed me to build a six-figure online business.

The Top 3 Reasons Why ASEA Associates Fail

There are many reasons why people fail, but the top 3 reasons are:

  1. Not Having Enough Leads
  2. Joining the Wrong Team
  3. Mastering Salesmanship is Tough

Let's examine each of them...

#1 Not Having Enough Leads

Consider this, who are the first people you will talk to about the business when you first join? Your friends and family, then comes your colleagues, and everyone you know, right?

These people are considered your warm market, and for most associates, these are their ONLY prospects.

Of course, the counter-argument is (as many sponsors will say), you don't need to recruit many people. You just need to recruit 2 to 4 people to your organization at the start, and then you train them to recruit their 2 to 4 people, and the process goes on. It is almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

MLM - Not Enough Leads

The problem with this mindset is that there is a high drop out rate of associates, and you need to probably meet hundreds of people to recruit that 2 to 4 people.

Which means that you'll constantly need to recruit new associates whenever your current associates leave the business (I'll explain why there is a high drop out rate in #3).

By the way, if you don't know it yet, building a sales team or recruiting is the only way to succeed in the ASEA business.

What happens when you have burned through your warm market list? Is it the end of your business (it is the end for most associates).

#2 Joining The Wrong Team

The truth is, your success or failure with the company is almost already determined by the team you join.

If you join a team of people who are helpful and supportive of each other, but they have no clue how success tastes like, you will fail.

On the other hand, if you have successful people in your team but they care less about teaching how to succeed, you will still fail.

MLM - Joined the Wrong Team

And, because there are only a handful of ASEA associates (3% to 5% of all associates) who have tasted success, it is tough to find someone successful in your team to coach and guide you.

Your chance of success if stack against you.

I would say unless you have direct access to top earners, I would suggest that you avoid the ASEA business.

#3 Mastering Salesmanship is Tough

Now, as you know, recruiting a team of associates is the only way to be successful.

You can't rely solely on promoting ASEA products.

Honestly, convincing someone to try the ASEA products is already tough, asking people to join the business is even harder.

Especially when you do not have any prior sales experience, you are going to find it hard to acquire the soft skills required by the job.

Soft skills aren't learned overnight, and it can't be learned from the books as well. This would mean that you have to put yourself out there and stomach a ton of rejections.

MLM - 95 Percent Fail - Gave Up

Rejection is inevitable; it comes with the job.

And unfortunately, many people do not have the patience or the right attitude to acquire this skill.

Not an easy business opportunity after all, right? I wonder why some people promote ASEA as an easy way to earn money.

Now, what do you think? Are you suitable for this business? If you don't think so, check this out.

In Case You Don't Know What ASEA Is

ASEA is a Multi-Level Marketing company in the health and wellness industry.

The company has defined itself as the only source to repair the redox imbalance (cells) of our body through a cutting edge technology known as Redox Signalling. More information on Redox Signalling can be found here.

With ASEA's Redox Supplement, it is said to positively impact the cellular health of every system of our bodies, and to help us achieve optimal health.

As we age, our normal cellular function declines, and it makes sense to have a supplement that will aid with the deterioration and possibility help us to prevent diseases.

The fact that the Redox Supplement provides healthy benefits, it cannot be promoted as a product which prevents or cure diseases, according to the FDA.

Besides, the products of ASEA are not clinically proven to prevent or cure diseases, though some distributors claimed that they could.

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Who Founded ASEA?

ASEA was founded by Verdis Norton and James Pack, and was officially launched in 2010 with only one product line, its "Redox Supplement".

In 2014, it successfully launched its RENU28, a whole-body skin gel that also leverages the benefits of redox signaling molecules, and following another product line "RENU Advanced."

ASEA-founder-verdis-norton

ASEA Products & Prices

  • 1 Case ASEA Bottles (4 x 32-OZ bottles) - $150.00 (Retail Price) / $120.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)
  • 1 Tube Renu 28 - $50.00 (Retail Price) / $40.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)
  • RENU Advance Skin & Body Kit - $237.50 (Retail Price) / $190.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)
  • RENU Advance Skin Care Kit - $162.50 (Retail Price) / $130.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)
  • RENU Advanced Gentle Refining Cleanser - $25.00 (Retail Price) / $20.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)
  • RENU Advanced Intensive Redox Serum - $100.00 (Retail Price) / $80.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)
  • RENU Advanced Ultra Replenishing Moisturizer - $75.00 (Retail Price) / $60.00 (Wholesale/Distributor Price)

Note: To enjoy the Wholesale/Distributor rate, you must apply for its autoship (monthly automatic purchase) for any one of the ASEA product.

The Compensation Plan

Normally if a company didn't do an excellent job in explaining the compensation plan, I would do my best to simplify it.

However, ASEA has done an excellent job on that, so I don't think I need to explain further. You can find the information here.

The Verdict

Now the biggest question you probably have, "Is ASEA a Scam?"

You must be wondering why I wanted to keep this critical section so far down this review.

It is because there are so many things to discuss about the ASEA products and the business opportunity that leads to this conclusion. If you haven't read the above yet, I highly suggest that you do so.

In short, ASEA is NOT a scam... But first, how do you even define a scam? To do that, I will answer these two questions:

  1. Is ASEA a Pyramid Scheme?
  2. Does the Company or its Associates Deceive Consumers?

Is ASEA a Pyramid Scheme?

Here's what the Federal Trade Commission defines a pyramid scheme...

What is a pyramid scheme

When assessing ASEA I looked at the retail value of the products. As you know, I have done extensive research and have read many reviews by people (associates and non-associates) who have tried the products.

What I found is that the Redox Supplement did benefit many people (even for non-associates). This means that ASEA has legitimate products (and none of those that the FTC has described), hence ASEA is unlikely a pyramid scheme.

Unlikely? Let me explain. No matter the legitimacy of ASEA, there will be a group of people who will package the business opportunity as a pyramid (recruitment) scheme.

These people will lure others to the business opportunity claiming that it is easy to earn money. They have little to no regard for promoting the products or its benefits.

In such a case, it is up to the management of the company to control its associates, and if they can't manage them well, they risk having the FTC on their case.

Does the Company or its Associates Deceive Consumers?

Because ASEA is a people's business, it is inevitable that some consumers will feel cheated. 

That's why there are allegations against ASEA due to its unfair business practices.

Those allegations were not directly related to the company, but rather, they were directed to several of their associates.

Those associates deceived the consumers by claiming that ASEA Redox Supplement has healing capabilities (when in fact the product is not medically proven to heal).

This is an illegal practice, and it is even stated in the ASEA's Policies and Procedures for associates.

ASEA Associate Policies and Procedures

Those associates were either deliberate, negligent, or utterly ignorant about the fact that they are breaking the law. How sad is that?

So the verdict is, no matter how legitimate ASEA present themselves, there will be a group of people who will give the company a bad name.

How Do You Protect Yourself from an ASEA Scam?

To protect yourself from unscrupulous associates, you have to know these...

  • ASEA products are not Food and Drug Association (FDA) approved;
  • The products are supplements and are not medically proven to heal any diseases;
  • Always purchase your products through the company or an associate's website. Never buy a product directly from an associate;
  • It is not a "Get Rich Quick" Scheme;
  • You should only join the opportunity because the products are beneficial and you want to share it.

I hope these help, and feel free to share your ideas as well in the comments section below (if you have any).

My Sincere Advice to You

I've shared with you that...

  1. The products won't work for everyone. You have to try to it to know;
  2. You should only join the business if the products benefited you;
  3. It is NOT AN EASY Business Opportunity;

The final decision lies with you.

If you've decided to join the ASEA as an associate, I would highly suggest that you learn the network marketing success formula from this program.

However, if ASEA is NOT a suitable business for you, and you are still looking for a way to earn extra money, then I would recommend that you check this out.

Anyway, if you still don't know who am I, I'll like to share my online success story with you.

Thank you so much for reading this ASEA review!

I hope that I have provided you with ample information, and if you find this helpful, please share it! Others might be looking for this information.

All the best to you and I hope that you will find success in whichever decision you make!

Your pal,

Jack

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Leave a Reply 22 comments

Stan Armstrong - Reply

Tried this junk about 5 years ago. It did nothing for my health. I tried it for 30 days then tried to get my money back and never saw a penny refunded. Buyer beware. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

wahine - Reply

I wanted to ask Jenese exactly what are the side effects or detox effects? I would assume the intensity or severity of the side effects depends on the level of health of the individual.

Randall Shank - Reply

My wife was ready for shoulder replacement surgery she was in so much pain until the doctor told her she was not a good candidate for the surgery. A friend had her try ASEA and within a month her pain was gone and full range of motion. Salt water? That is the way it taste. While not extensive it has been tested BioAgilytix to prove it is not just salt water.

I was highly skeptical at first because somethings she has tried worked for a short period and than her pain came back. It has not with ASEA. After her results I started taking it and have noticed changes. There is something to this. Yes I read the trials and yes they are very limited. Basically what I got out of them was 1. it will not hurt you and 2. It does something. Anything more than that is rather technical and in my mind inconclusive.

I don’t know what person said this will cure cancer or cure any disease but it will not. It might improve your chances by being healthier but NO ONE I know of has said alone it will cure any disease. If you are already really healthy I would think you would not feel much from taking this, particularly after only a month. If you read pharmaceutical trials for many of the commercial drugs and were looking for 100% guarantee you would not find it there either. One time my wife had cancer and the doctor told us that a certain treatment SIGNIFICANTLY extended the life of patients. When I ask what significant meant in terms of time he response was ” if you are dying even 7 days is significant”. All trials are limited in scope. ASEA is not a miracle cure.

I am certain there are people that did not see results from this product but there are a large number who do.

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Thanks for sharing this Randall! This will definitely help people who are deciding to buy Asea.

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Jose Sevilla - Reply

Hi Jack. I was diagnosed with mild arthritis on the knee at 35 yrs old. I told the doctor. ” By the time I”am 50 I wont be able to walk. I turned 49 and I was at that point when a friend from church told me about ASEA. In just 3 weeks I noticed results and was feeling 80% better and my 79yr old Grandmother said she started seeing results as well. Is been 2yrs and Im still using it with no problems. I did stop using it for about 2 months to see if I would get knee pains; And I did started to feel it creep back up again. So it did work for me and my family. Like you said. I guess you have to have something wrong with you to see results. God Bless brother.

    Jack Cao - Reply

    So glad to know Asea has worked for you! It confirms that it is not just premium salt water. Haha!

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Mia Skipwith - Reply

Hi Jack,
It’s great to hear that you tried the liquid Asea. The science of Redox Biochemistry has been around a long time..decades..and pubmed.gov has thousands of peer reviewed articles for people to check out.
I don’t have a science background but I was so grateful that I have a good friend who does! I have suffered from chronic, debilitating illness from a young age.
I had a lot of sick cells and 40 years of disease to deal with. I don’t have the time to list all the conditions but they include auto-immune diseases, spinal fusion, IBS, Lymes disease, frozen shoulder, Bells Palsy…you get the picture! How I managed to have children and get out of bed everyday is a miracle to me! I didn’t have all those things at once, but some did overlap. If someone had said bath in your fish pond and it will help your pain, I might actually have considered it haha…
All I can tell you is after starting on the products 3 years ago, I am doing things I never thought I would be able to. I am always going to have health challenges but what is it worth to not be in constant pain and worrying that I wasn’t going to be around to see my kids grow up? I said I would give it at least 3 months because you can’t put out a fire with a cup of water! 75 trillion cells that took 40 plus years to get sick needed some love! I had nothing to lose except money..and in 2015, I was losing my battle to live.
If someone thinks this is salt water then buy a bottle and put some in a spray bottle. Then, add salt and water to another bottle…spray both in one eye each…I’m sure you’ll know which one is salt water! I guess when you have exhausted all options, and you are dying, then you will try anything. Well I did, and I’ve never looked back. How can I not share that with others? It completely shocked me when Asea paid me, as I hadn’t done anything other than tell my family & friends. If we don’t have our health then what do we have? I always think of Steve Jobs. Anyway, this is a very brief, but true and honest account of my experience and I am certainly not the only one.
Thanks
MIa

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Hey Mia,

    I am so glad that you have positive experience with ASEA. Many people wouldn’t understand the usefulness of the product, because most of them are healthy. It is when your health needs improvement that you see the real difference.

    Also, it brings to the point where successful advocates are people who truly experience positive results with the product. It brings more power to the message when you are promoting the products.

    Anyway, I am thankful for sharing your experience here, and it definitely help people understand what ASEA really is, and whether or not they should try it.

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

john j - Reply

This is a great article. And its true that its hard to market a product that you are not fully convinced.
Id say, their product price is not suitable for the common asian market. Network marketing is not the best marketing design. How can you sell a product to a developing asian country with a price the same as that of a western country, thats a terrible pitfall in the sooner or longer run. Ive experienced and seen it! Its just but going to be another full of hypes! And few years on the go and then goodbye!

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Thanks for sharing your opinion John. Much appreciated!

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

michaela - Reply

This is a scam. It’s 100% sure.

If you give regular salt water to 100 people and claim it will cure them, 33% of them will actually feel that they have been cured.
And well, this is just a regular salt water, with highly motivational pyramid scheme money earning model for thousands of people to spread lies in the internet. ONLY so that they can make huge profits.
Shame. What a shame.

EVIDENCE:
There is NO reproducable scientific evidence of this product actually working any other ways beneficial than normal salt water. none. nada…0..zero.. WHY? because it’s a scam!

    Jack Cao - Reply

    While I don’t think the company is a scam, but I do appreciate that you share your views.

    Thanks you Michaela!

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Amille Thailas - Reply

If this was legitimate, a real miracle supplement, it would be worth billions, yes, billions. It would undergo legitimate clinical tests and revolutionize the medical industry while “healing” millions, yes, millions of people. But, this is not the case. It has no real clinical evaluation, no valid studies — nothing but testimonials. If it were real these testimonials would be front page news…they are not… Many of the testimonials are folks tied up in the Multi-level marketing operation or their friends. All fake. The company is hiding behind outsiders (they distributors) to “advertise” the so-called benefits of the product to avoid legal liability for false advertising. Their distributors brag on the product healing everything from cancer, to kidney failure, to heart disease to acne. No proof. My local rep, my neighbor, just told me his friend was diagnosed with terminal leukemia six months ago and after three months of ASEA, he is now 100% cancer free. Finally, a cure for chemotherapy.

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Thanks for sharing your views Amille! Much appreciated!

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Manfred - Reply

For those who simply debunked and call this a scam. Your intelligence is probably non existent.
You dont understand the product, and you drink one bottle and what do you want to feel?

When you have issues for many years, and one fine day, your body says you have a problem. Why dont you detect it before.

Dumb ass, If you can write anything worth your salt, you will be respected. If not you are just another person who have no understanding how body works.

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Hey man,

    I don’t appreciate your language but I do appreciate that you share your thoughts.

    If you haven’t read my article completely, don’t assume that I am calling this a scam. Go read it entirely before making any comments, otherwise it will just make you look like the thing you’ve said in your comment.

    And, I didn’t drink 1 bottle, I drank a total of 4 bottles. I did give the product a good one month to see if there’s any effect on my body, but unfortunately it didn’t work for me.

    As I said, this product does not work for everyone. Some will feel more healthy, while some people won’t feel or experience anything. This is subjective.

    Thank you for your comment anyway.

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Frederik Drost - Reply

I am very sceptical because many questions arise when hearing about this (i was “headhunted” to work for them)..

If this product is SO revolutionary and really help prevent diseases and makes us so much healthier, why haven’t i heard of it? I read many scientific newspapers and follow science news daily.

Why won’t they tell us how it’s made? They “obviously” patented the process, so just tell us to reassure us and to let others be able to reproduce the result.

If we all have similar singaling porcesses in our bodies, we should see the same result on most people? Just like with a flu shot or morphin…

Just food for thought

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Lol! Headhunted? What a nice trick. I’m sure it doesn’t come from the company directly (It’s surely from an associate or distributor who is trying to be “smart”).

    Anyway, thanks for your input Frederik. These are good questions, and I don’t have the answer for you. Hopefully, some ASEA distributors have the answer.

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Trent Jarvis - Reply

I suffer from chrons disease and my acupuncturist put me onto asea. The weatern appriach to ny disease through immuno suppressants , remixade and ibfliximab didnt really deliver the health level that i sought.

I still struggle as to wether asea is a a scam or nit. As everyone just says its salt water. What i found was that when i started having it. Instead of comibg home and collapsing on rhe bed with fatigue after a 10 hour day on the mines. I was able to finish work and still have usable energy. I was also able to get away with eating foods that had previously made me unwell.

Ive ised the gel to soothe the inflamation rectally. Which has worked. Ive also tried to not have aswa and replace it with a lemin water and salt water solution. Im not sure what it is. But the asea xant be matched. My kinesiologist has also verified it for me.

Hope this helps. If tou can think of sonething cheaper that does the same thing. Im all ears

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Hi Trent Jarvis,

    Thank you so much for your insights.

    This will definitely help people decide if they should get a bottle of ASEA.

    Unfortunately, my experience with the product was different from yours. I didn’t feel any difference after consuming the product.

    But, its great to know that ASEA is not just a bottle of Salt water for others.

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

Jenese Garland - Reply

Hi Jack,

I like your article on ASEA as I hear so many people just google the product and get bad reviews or “scam” articles. I hope you will try ASEA for yourself as well. I can assure you it is not expensive salt water. If you research the company BioAgilytix and find it is bogus, then we have a problem. This is the company that randomly tests each batch of “big pharma” drugs and ASEA to verify that it is what it says it is and has in it what it says it is. ASEA uses salt and water just as our own cells do, to produce the redox signaling molecules, just as our bodies do. Redox signaling has been in research with medical scientists for 30 years or more, it’s just Verdis Norton saw that the company researching the stabilization was on to something. When they ran out of money to continue, he bought the company. Then he had to find a scientist to figure out how to stabilize the molecules, which they did about 8 years ago. Now we have the benefit of putting the SAME exact communication back into our bodies that God created our bodies to heal themselves. The truth is ASEA does not heal anything, it is the signaling molecules that cause our cells and such to communicate to detect, repair, replace and rebuild dead, damaged, sick cells. It also turns on good gene expression. There are great scientific studies done that verify this information. It really is remarkable.
As for the MLM, it had to be that way. They didn’t know how to sell it and direct selling was the only way. You can’t just stick a product like ASEA onto a shelf in a store for obvious reasons. Oh and big pharma wanted to buy the product, but told the team they had to completely walk away from it and take all the people on it, who were experiencing GREAT health changes to their bodies. The team did not want to walk away from it and take their people off of it. They wanted to help people and wanted to get it to the masses so they told B.P. no. There are 42 patents on ASEA, 33 of those are the processes that take the salt and water through a 72-hour transformation.
I can honestly tell you that if you try ASEA for 90 days, you will see a difference. The first thing that happens is your cells start flushing out the dead and diseased cells and it causes a detox or body cleansing. This is serious business, take it from one who put very unhealthy people on it, I guarantee salt water does not do this!
Well, I thought as someone who is in the business after 6 months, benefited greatly (my hubby and I) from the product and have a little bit of income, it’s really great. ASEA has MANY resources and help for people that want to grow business, there’s no excuse except just not doing it.
Joyfully!
Jenese Garland

    Jack Cao - Reply

    Thanks Jenese! I’ll definitely give ASEA a try, and update my review thereafter.

    Cheers!
    ~Jack (BareNakedScam)

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